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Where Are the Men?


A Dialogue on Gender

Susan: The question of finding "men" to be volunteers and also to be volunteer program managers surfaces quite regularly, frequently accompanied by deep sighs from female colleagues. When a live male candidate actually appears, the sighs change to heavy panting.

As you can tell already by the bit of computer/gender humor we shared at the top and the last sentence, it's easy for Steve and me to be tongue-in-cheek about this subject. And, to mention the obvious: we have naturally different perspectives on the topic. But gender is important in volunteerism, as in all aspects of life. So, let's see what's really going on.

Steve: At least as much as two people looking at something from totally different perspectives can, at any rate.

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Comments

Andy Fryar, Executive Officer of the Lyell McEwin Health Service Volunteer Association, Adelaide, South Australia

In terms of moving forward I agree with you both that the women in the field have a great opportunity to move volunteer management forward, but I also believe that those (few) males who work in volunteer program management also have a key role to play in bridging the gap and breaking down the "volunteering" stigma that was inadvertently created by our previous generations.

Gerald (Jerry) Pannozzo, CVA, Director of Volunteer Services, Rivington House Health Care Facility, New York, NY, USA

I totally agree with Susan and Steve--we need to look at the words, environments, topics, etc. When I first volunteered with a group of lesbians, I had my eyes opened once they shared some issues they faced with the men on the committee.

I ask members of the profession to think about the message that may unintentionally be carried with the following comments I've "heard" over the years.

men are the problem
men are what's wrong (with my salary and/or position)
men, not me, in the field make the big bucks
men don't have to put up with crap (I have had to)
men intentionally take power from women
men have created the obstacles

So if you were a man at a meeting, workshop, conference, etc. would you feel guilty, self introspective, tune out the person who makes such a comment, speak up, or decide not to attend again? On an up note, Susan and Steve raise the issue of the shift in power from female founders of the voluntary organization to male board, administrator, etc. I'm optimistic for the women of the 21st Century. Some women have now had the benefit/entry to the education and on-the-job training/experience that will allow them to move into positions of leadership/power. Hopefully, both the women and men who lead will embrace the positive aspects/components of both genders.

J Cravens, United Nations Volunteers Online, Volunteering Specialist, Bonn Germany

This subject brought this to mind: A few years ago, I was put in charge of recruiting more attendees to a local DOVIA's monthly meetings, and the board requested for me to recruit men in particular.

It wasn't difficult -- I sent e-mails to various Rotary Clubs and Lions Clubs and Firemen's associations and churches and, ta da, at our next meeting was an audience that was about a quarter male (up from about two previously).
All were very excited to be there, and said they'd never heard of DOVIA until they saw the e-mail (or the print out of such showed up on their bulletin board in their break room).

However, they never came back. The meeting they attended was on ways to recognize volunteers. There was lots of discussions about thank you teas and receptions and party favors and pins and pot holders.

No mention of using the Internet as a way to thank volunteers. Or writing letters of recommendation. Or inviting outstanding volunteers to serve on internal, decision-making committees. The group leadership appealed only to those that were just like them.

Anyway... thanks for a thought-provoking article.

Gerald (Jerry) Pannozzo, CVA, Director of Volunteer Services, Rivington House Health Care Facility, New York, NY, USA

Before becoming a volunteer administrator (eight years ago), I was involved with theatre costumes (twenty years). I've been a gender minority with both of my careers. I've "attempted" to be sensitive to women's issues, discover how we differ and are similar when approaching problems, and sometimes"censoring" what I say and how I react. (Steve referred to this.)

Susan, do you really believe men simple get promoted within DOVIA's and it is not based on merit? Or are they conditioned/comfortable running with the ball (read taking on responsibilities and tapped into)? Are they less restricted by family responsibilities (even if it is thirty years later)--thereby encouraging/allowing them the opportunity to lead? (I don't have the answers.)

Steve commented on how we recruit/clone ourselves. At a recent NY AVA workshop, (recruitment with a focus on diversity), one panelist stated that you have to identify "why" you want diversity. Only after you answer that question should you proceed with developing your recruitment strategies. We know that we need to prepare for a new employee or volunteer who uses a wheel chair, has language or cultural issues, etc.--have we had access to and/or pursued information on gender sensitivity? Do we assume it will just happen? Susan and Steve, thanks for your insights/ideas on this topic!

Andy Fryar, Executive Officer of the Lyell McEwin Health Service Volunteer Association, Adelaide, South Australia

Thanks for the thought provoking article Susan and Steve. It is one I have thought about often and now offer these few comments. From my own limited (and male!) point of view, having spoken to many older women volunteers, volunteering 50+ years ago was very much a social exercise for many women. Susan's idea that a woman volunteered to demonstrate her husbands earning potential is sure an interesting one, and while there may be some truth to this being an avenue which prompted many women to volunteer, I believe that more importantly the volunteering a woman undertook actually gave her some status, social standing and most importantly a purpose to life beyond the mundane task of "caring for the husband and kids." In other words volunteering for this group WAS important and, while seen as secondary and perhaps not important by the men of the generation, it was always a paramount activity for women.

For men, the roles of firefighter, coach etc. were always an extension of what they did outside of the work place, which gave men greater status amongst their peers and were usually age old traditional activities. In the same way, volunteering gave women a greater status. The only differences really were that firstly, the roles women undertook were often newer (and were often created by these women trail blazers) and secondly, the society of the day deemed that the important things were the things men said were important!

Marcia Hale, Volunteer Services Inc., Consultant Oregon City, OR

Interesting debate regarding male volunteers. There are areas of volunteerism where the majority of volunteers are male and we struggle to attract female role models. Any of us who've managed science center volunteer programs, usually have a majority of men. Our challenge is to find younger (30-40 something) female volunteers with a science related profession that our female students can identify with. I think the same holds true for other technology based museums or centers that utilize volunteers.

Gerald (Jerry) Pannozzo, CVA, Director of Volunteer Services, Rivington House Health Care Facility, New York, NY, USA

In Reference to the Computer Humour:
The goal of the exercise was to identify a computer's gender--previously a friend emailed me a similar list. However, I had a negative reaction because thirty after the women's movement (and others) the list included 50's and 60's gender stereotypes. We discussed my concern that the list reinforced such stereotypes. We also questioned if I had lost my sense of humor.

Words we use; methods for problem solving; influences from our work environments; and power are all part of this discussion. Before becoming a volunteer administrator, I volunteered for a committee (men and women) that produced monthly fundraisers/friend raisers at a Gay, Lesbian, Bi, Transgender Center. I eventually enrolled in a volunteer management class at NYU and enthusiastically attempted to introduce: volunteer assignments; standards for conduct during the events; systems for signing up volunteers based on seniority, etc. I was called "control queen" and "patriarchal". (Was it my intent to take over power or simply propose effective business techniques?) I eventually volunteered (co-chaired) the annual fundraiser. I introduced systems/structure for the leadership volunteers (15 team captains/steering committee) and one-day volunteers (250)--with the support of some staff and volunteers. I was working as a volunteer administrator by this time. (Was I donating my professional services?) My critics called me a "suit" and accuse me of pushing a corporate mentality (male dominated) within a grass roots organization.

Over the years, my fellow volunteers/friends and I discussed our desire to help yet our feelings of rejection/ feeling disenfranchised. Was the problem with us or them? Most likely all parties shared some responsibility. Susan and Steve, thanks for this discussion.

Margaret Brewer, Aquarium of the Pacific Manager, Volunteer Services, Long Beach CA USA

First, I had a great laugh. Thank you for that. Than I thought about the job title issue. I have been telling my colleagues at the Aquarium that the term "volunteer" only describes the pay rate. The pay is the thank you's, the feeling of making a difference, and whatever other recognition the program provides. Your article provides much needed support for that concept. As a result of the thinking prodded by your article, I am hoping to create real job titles for the various
tasks which our staff-members-working-without-financial-compensation
perform. We do not have a significant issue with attracting women and men;
we do have issues regarding internal valuation of the work performed.
Thank you for the insights. I really think that recognizable job titles will help move us to a greater understanding and appreciation of what these wonderful folks do!